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panning view delay

#1 Post by Nate » 22 Oct 2024, 10:34

If I hold the right mouse button and move the mouse quickly, the view does not pan right away. My mouse can travel half the screen width before the view starts panning. It drives me bonkers!

Has it been fixed in v5? I haven't upgraded yet. If not are there plans to do so?

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Re: panning view delay

#2 Post by Alex » 24 Oct 2024, 08:38

There is a small delay between moving the mouse and starting the pan. We did it to avoid the pan on every right click. Sure, wasted travel of mouse is bigger if you move the mouse quickly. But in general I think we did a good trade off.

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Re: panning view delay

#3 Post by Nate » 24 Oct 2024, 09:02

I must very, very strongly disagree. It should use a "tap square", not a time delay. In other words, do not start the drag until the mouse has moved 10 pixels in X or Y. A tap square is the standard way of doing this. Using a time delay is very frustrating because if I move too fast, I don't get what I want. I run into it over and over in DipTrace.

Also when you do start the drag, reset the starting position to where the drag started, not where the mouse went down. This avoids a jump of 10+ pixels. For example, if I drag the mouse 12 pixels, the first 10 pixels aren't a drag and the drag is only 2 pixels (not 12).

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In particular, I would love for DipTrace to copy my mouse zooming (which I copied from the game Supreme Commander). Instead of zooming both in and out to the mouse position, zooming out also pans based on the mouse position in relation to the center of the screen. It's flipping amazing because you can zoom out (which also pans) and back in elsewhere very quickly. It almost completely removes the need to pan, making using the tool faster.

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Re: panning view delay

#4 Post by Nate » 27 Oct 2024, 07:23

Wait, if I right click and hold for a while without moving, then pan, you are already using a tap square. I don't see any reason for the delay! There is no "pan on every right click" because you use a tap square. All the delay does is let my mouse travel for a while without giving the action I want, which is pan. It's frustrating and makes panning slow and mushy. It doesn't make any sense to right mouse drag farther than the tap square, release, and expect to get right click.

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Re: panning view delay

#5 Post by Nate » 02 Nov 2024, 18:31

I hope that this issue will not get overlooked. Being able to pan quickly is important. Having to wait for a delay when panning is very frustrating.

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Re: panning view delay

#6 Post by Nate » 13 Nov 2024, 08:30

Can you please consider removing the delay? It's seriously driving me nuts.

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Re: panning view delay

#7 Post by Nate » 14 Nov 2024, 06:32

If I pan with the right mouse button and I'm over an item, it deselects what I had selected and selects that item.

This happens when I'm holding ctrl to select many items, but I need to pan to select the rest. If I accidentally pan over an item, I lose my selection and have to start over. This happens a lot and is frustrating.

Pan should not select.

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Re: panning view delay

#8 Post by Nate » 24 Nov 2024, 05:41

Will this ever be addressed? I don't mind waiting, but I'd rather know now if I should just give up.

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Re: panning view delay

#9 Post by Alex » 28 Nov 2024, 09:46

Nate wrote: 24 Nov 2024, 05:41 Will this ever be addressed? I don't mind waiting, but I'd rather know now if I should just give up.
We will consider removing the delay. Not immediately but we will investigate the issue in the future.

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Re: panning view delay

#10 Post by Nate » 28 Nov 2024, 22:41

OK, thanks for taking a look!

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