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KevinA
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Purchasing a Pick and Place machine

#1 Post by KevinA » 10 Mar 2018, 13:46

I was looking into a Pick and Place machine and came across:
CHM-T36 https://goo.gl/xk77T9 Laser with SD card $2,200 + shipping ($650 for 70kg)
CHM-T36VA https://goo.gl/5UpAas External Computer & Vision $3,500
TVM802A https://goo.gl/hAemE6 External Computer & Vision $3,200 20mm*20mm~340mm*340mm, 27 feeders
TVM802B https://goo.gl/jyz61r External Computer & Vision $4,200 20mm*20mm--270mm*350mm, 46 feeders

I'm looking at purchasing the TVM802A, I have small boards, 27 feeders with the front tray and the option of tube feeders should work, still trying to verify the machine can do .5 mm pitch 20mm X 20mm Ic's. This is hobby stuff so no, a 'real' $$ machine is not an option.

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Re: Purchasing a Pick and Place machine

#2 Post by KevinA » 01 Dec 2019, 14:59

KevinA wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 13:46 I was looking into a Pick and Place machine and came across:
CHM-T36 https://goo.gl/xk77T9 Laser with SD card $2,200 + shipping ($650 for 70kg)
CHM-T36VA https://goo.gl/5UpAas External Computer & Vision $3,500
TVM802A https://goo.gl/hAemE6 External Computer & Vision $3,200 20mm*20mm~340mm*340mm, 27 feeders
TVM802B https://goo.gl/jyz61r External Computer & Vision $4,200 20mm*20mm--270mm*350mm, 46 feeders

I'm looking at purchasing the TVM802A, I have small boards, 27 feeders with the front tray and the option of tube feeders should work, still trying to verify the machine can do .5 mm pitch 20mm X 20mm Ic's. This is hobby stuff so no, a 'real' $$ machine is not an option.
While watching the price of the above machine increase I decided to start buying some reels of common parts, like 1K resistors and 0.01uf capacitors. Found out that 1 reel of 1K 1% is $120 for 20K, the reels have a 'Used By' date before the seal tape has issues. For prototype and small runs this sounds like an over kill, expensive over kill.

Out of the blue I received an e-mail from OpenPlacer offering a Black Friday Special of 20% off, checking the machines out (Standard and Mini) I found the Mini would work and save me $500.00 : https://www.openplacerstore.com/
I purchased the Mini, two extra feeders, the two pickup heads that do not come with the machine. I did this after finding out that Mouser charges extra to put tape parts on a reel but there is no charge for 2K on tape of any part, the 'feeders have groves that you slip the tape parts into, I already have books of SMD parts full of 4" strips of tape covered with parts. $1379.80 including shipping for a machine that can do 800 parts an hour, can auto change nozzles, has top and bottom cameras and can handle a 100mm X 150mm PCB. The $500 more Standard machine can handle 100mm X 200mm PCB and one more feeder tray, total feeder trays of three. If I get it before 12/25 I'd be happy :shock:

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Re: Purchasing a Pick and Place machine

#3 Post by KevinA » 20 Dec 2019, 10:46

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You do need a recent computer to use OpenPnP and dual USB cameras, my first try with a 7 year old i7 failed. For my small projects this is ideal, I can manually pick a part and place it and with 0402 parts that is what I needed! I'll be awhile learning this beast, many ways to fail...

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Re: Purchasing a Pick and Place machine

#4 Post by zgulkhan » 22 Jul 2020, 20:26

I have built a smt pick and place machine a try for nozzle change you can see..

I need help to improve it with vision system, any suggestion and Idea may highly be appreciated thanks in advance...

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